Leaders of self-help agencies (SHAs) aspire to develop program environments that are different from community mental health agencies (CMHAs). This article addresses two questions. Do consumers' perceptions of SHAs approximate the characteristics leaders think ought to typify such agencies? Do SHA and CMHA consumers differ in their program perceptions? Using the Community-Oriented Program Environment Scale, leader expectations of ideal SHA environments were obtained from a national survey of 189 consumer-run agency heads, perceptions of actual environments from interviews with 310 SHA consumers, and perceptions of CMHAs from questionnaire responses of 779 consumers in 54 programs. SHA reality conforms to ideology in offering opportunities for consumers to experience involvement, support, and autonomy in the receipt of needed service. While showing only modest differences from CMHAs on relationship and treatment characteristics, SHA consumers differ in their perceived control over program rules, a fact previously found significant in promoting positive outcomes.